The
very first post on Limited Interests was published on November 7, 2013. It’s a
couple weeks past the six year anniversary, and this is the 300th
post I’ve made on this site. At around 2500 words a post, that means I’ve
written roughly 750,000 words about football in that time, about the same
number as in the first five Harry Potter books.
I’ve
had a lot of takes on a lot of topics in that time. Some of them have been
right. Others, less so. Most obvious have been my annual breakdowns of draft
prospects, which over the course of the past five drafts have covered about 300
NFL players. There have been some big hits (Alvin Kamara, Derwin James) and some
big misses (it’s a running joke that I was way too low on Odell Beckham, but
for variety’s sake let me also toss out Ronnie Stanley and Christian
McCaffrey). (Actually my best hit rate has been identifying players who won’t
live up to the hype. Among top five picks I’ve been skeptical of are Greg
Robinson, Solomon Thomas, Leonard Fournette, and Corey Davis.)
I
don’t have the time or the attention span to reevaluate every prospect I’ve
ever rated. But the quarterback position is important enough for me to take a
look back at it, and the events of the past couple weeks have highlighted
probably my most egregious error: Mitchell Trubisky.
I
loved Trubisky entering the 2017 draft. He was my clear top quarterback
prospect, and in the week leading up to the draft I even made the argument that
the Browns should select him ahead of Myles Garrett (who has had a rough couple
of weeks as well, but for very different reasons). Two and a half years in,
that was very clearly a bad call on my part. And as Trubisky was sent to the
bench late in the game against the Rams for reasons that may or may not be
performance related, it looks like his time in Chicago is quickly running out.
So
I decided that now was as good a time as any to look back on what I’ve had to
say about the quarterback prospects who have entered the league over the past
few seasons. I’ve read back through my scouting reports on each and every
passer who was either a first round pick or who I rated as a first round pick,
to see where I went right and where I was led astray.
(Current
starting quarterbacks not included in this breakdown are Brady, Fitzpatrick,
Roethlisberger, Tannehill, Foles, Rivers, Flacco, Carr, Ryan, Brees, Newton,
Cousins, Rodgers, Stafford, Garoppolo, and Wilson, who were all drafted before
I started analyzing this. I’ll withhold judgment on rookies Murray, Haskins,
and Jones. Apologies out to Prescott and Brissett, who turned into quality
starters despite not being on my radar before the draft. No apologies needed
for Devlin Hodges, Brandon Allen, or Kyle Allen. They won’t be starters for
much longer.)
Players
are listed in each draft in the order I had them ranked. The number next to
their name indicates the pick they were taken with in that draft. For each I
read back through my pre-draft scouting report and picked something I said that
I got right, and something that hasn’t held up great in hindsight.
2015
2. Marcus Mariota
Nailed
it – “Mariota doesn’t have the same upside as Winston, but he has significantly
less risk.”
Swing
and a Miss – “He is absolutely lethal as a runner.”
Mariota
was supposed to be a safe prospect, and yet it seems likely that he won’t make
it to a second contract with the team that drafted him. And yet no one would
necessarily call him a bust either. He’s been effective but unspectacular,
which is what I saw as the likely worst case scenario for him.
The
one part of Mariota’s game that has puzzled me is his lack of contribution as a
runner. In each of his three seasons as a college starter he had at least 715
yards as a rusher. His best running season in the NFL was last year, and he
still failed to reach even half that number. He was never a great scrambler,
but his speed made him dangerous on called runs. Unfortunately in the NFL, his
coaches have shown no interest in using him in that way.
This
is going to be a theme as I go through this. So many of these players are
defined by the situations they find themselves in, and Mariota has
unsurprisingly become a bland quarterback in a bland situation. In five years
in the NFL he’s had four different offensive coordinators, and the head coach
combination of Mike Mularkey and Mike Vrabel has been uninspiring. I don’t know
if Mariota would have prospered in a system that opened things up and let him
use his legs, but I know he would have been a lot more fun.
1. James Winston
Nailed
it – “From a football perspective, the biggest red flags are the
interceptions.”
Swing
and a Miss – “His incredible arm is his saving grace, allowing him to deliver a
perfect pass no matter what base he’s standing on.”
The
interceptions were always there for Winston. He threw 18 his final year in
college, and he even had 10 during his Heisman winning freshman year. It’s no
surprise that he has paced the league in that statistic since he arrived. He is
who he is, and I doubt that will ever change.
I
thought that he could make enough big plays with his arm to erase these
mistakes, and there are times I can still talk myself into it. He is
consistently near the top of the league in the percentage of his passes that go
for a first down, one of the more underappreciated NFL statistics. But I think
I probably overestimated his playmaking ability, particularly the strength and
accuracy of his arm. He has always made reckless throws from unusual platforms
with pressure closing in. The difference is that in college these often worked
out, while in the NFL they have too frequently gone the other way.
2016
1. Jared Goff
Nailed
it – “I worry that his ceiling might not be at a true superstar level, but I am
comfortable with his floor as, worst case scenario, a league average
quarterback.”
Swing
and a Miss – “He’s light on his feet, and he moves well in the pocket, sensing
pressure and shifting around to give himself a lane to throw the football.”
Three
and a half years into his career, I think we’re all pretty much in agreement on
the first part of this. Goff is good, and in the right situation he can lead an
elite offense. But he needs that right situation, and as that has disappeared
this year he has struggled to produce.
It's
been three and a half years, so I can’t speak to what I actually saw when I
watched his tape. But it is strange that one of the things I identified as
among his strengths has been his biggest weakness in the NFL. Goff does not
handle pressure well, and he does not move well in the pocket. Maybe it was
easier for him in college, when he executed solely from a shotgun setup where
he could always play downhill and see the field in front of him. Now in the NFL
he is taking a lot more dropbacks, asking him to make more complex reads.
Perhaps that could be a fix for him, at least in the short term, to play more
from a spread shotgun formation in order to simplify the game for him again.
2. Carson Wentz
Nailed
it – “This gave him plenty of margin for error, and he took full advantage of
it, consistently struggling with ball placement.”
Swing
and a Miss – “Wentz can become somewhat of a statue in the pocket, and he
doesn’t offer much in the way of improvisational skills.”
Wentz
has talent, and it’s still easy to talk ourselves into what he can be if he
puts it all together. At times he looks like an elite quarterback on the level
of other young stars like Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson (both of whom are
mentioned below), but every time I start to talk myself into him, he does
something difficult to watch. He misses some easy targets, and he always seems
just not quite all the way what he could be.
Strangely
though, his most impressive moments are when the play breaks down and he has to
make things up on the fly. He can make difficult throws from strange platforms,
and he has an excellent understanding of where everyone is on the field and how
to find his targets as he runs. This seems to be something he’s developed since
entering the NFL, perhaps because he never needed to do this at North Dakota
State, where the talent around him was enough to beat any opponent even if he
played it safe.
26. Paxton Lynch
Nailed
it – “Lynch has absolutely no idea how to play quarterback in the NFL”
Swing
and a Miss – “He could turn out to be a quality starter someday, but that day
is still several years down the road,”
This
is probably one of my biggest hits as a draft analyst. Lynch was a first round
selection, and I had him pegged as a sixth rounder. If anything I was too high
on him, as he lasted all of two seasons before Denver gave up and released him.
He was a disaster from the moment he entered an NFL facility, and the only real
mistake I made was hedging my bets at the end and saying that he had the talent
to maybe one day be a starter. The one thing I didn’t know about him—that I
couldn’t know about him from just watching tape—was that he really had no
interest in putting in the work required to succeed, an attitude that expedited
his failure in Denver.
2017
1. Mitchell Trubisky
Nailed
it – “He’ll become a little flustered under pressure and either run from a
clean pocket or chuck the ball blindly down the field.”
Swing
and a Miss – “His arm can get the ball to any spot on the field, and it usually
ends up exactly where he wants to put it.”
As
I mentioned above, this is one that hurt. Reading back through this scouting
report, every sentence seems worse than the last. I didn’t even highlight the
part where I said, “The most likely outcome is a comfortable top ten starter.”
It’s pretty reasonable to say at this point that this is never going to happen.
So
where did I go wrong? Contrary to popular belief, it wasn’t obvious to everyone
who watched college football that this pick was a mistake. In his final year in
college, Trubisky had a better completion percentage, higher yards per attempt,
better passer rating, and fewer interceptions than Deshaun Watson. He was a
very successful, very effective quarterback in his one year as a starter, and
that simply hasn’t carried over to the NFL.
Some
of my mistake can be blamed on the scheme he played in. On the surface it
looked like a fairly complicated scheme, asking him to work across the field
and make difficult reads. But the hardest part of evaluating a quarterback on
film is that you can never say what is going on in his head. Was Trubisky
really getting three or four receivers deep on his progression, or was he just
well trained in using his eyes as part of the same mechanical process? As he’s been
put in more challenging situations in the NFL, it’s clear that I was tricked,
and probably a lesson to be a little more skeptical of making an assumption
about how the quarterback’s mind is working on the field.
52. Deshone Kizer
Nailed
it – “The problem with Kizer is that once the ball leaves his hand, you have
absolutely no idea where it is going to end up.”
Swing
and a Miss – “He is the smoothest, most natural operator out of the pocket in
this draft.”
As
you can see above, I was always a bit skeptical of Kizer. I believe accuracy is
the most essential trait for a quarterback to have, and Kizer simply didn’t
have it. I knew this could be a career killing flaw, and I thought the risk was
still worth it on the off chance this could be fixed.
This
couldn’t be fixed, and it ultimately wasn’t the only thing that did Kizer in.
Between college and the NFL, everything else good about his game disappeared.
He wilted under pressure, he made reckless decisions with the football, and he
threw away any hope he had off success.
This
is where I have to mention the misfortune Kizer had to end up in Cleveland. And
not just in Cleveland, in Cleveland during the worst period of their disaster
years. Hue Jackson made life as difficult as possible for Kizer, and though I
can’t easily say he could have been worth where I had him ranked if he had
ended up elsewhere, he at least wouldn’t have been quite as embarrassing if he
had gone anywhere other than Cleveland.
10. Patrick Mahomes
Nailed
it – “There is something here, and even though it may take the best coaching
staff in the world to reach it, the upside is almost immeasurable.”
Swing
and a Miss – “He relies on this far too often, breaking from a clean pocket and
running himself into trouble.”
This
is one that hurts a little. I liked Mahomes a lot predraft, and the gap I had
between him and Kizer was extremely tight. I should have trusted my instincts
and ranked Mahomes higher, but I was scared away by the uncertainty I saw. And
the truth is, I wasn’t wrong. What Mahomes has done in the NFL is unlike
anything else we have ever seen in this league before, just as what he did in
college was unlike anything we had seen on that level before.
That’s
the difficulty with scouting one of a kind players. There is no template for
knowing what will carry over and what will fail. Aaron Donald was a similar puzzle,
and while these two may provide extraordinary examples, they can be countered
with names like Corey Coleman and Greg Robinson.
I
don’t think I was wrong about Mahomes. He ended up in a perfect situation with
Andy Reid, and he has lived up to the best case scenario entering the draft.
That doesn’t mean the risk wasn’t there. Projecting a prospect is always a
probability game, and just because a player hit, that doesn’t mean the initial
analysis of the downside risk was wrong.
12. Deshaun Watson
Nailed
it – “He has moments of exquisite touch on jump balls to a receiver’s back
shoulder on the sideline.”
Swing
and a Miss – “As a long term prospect, I see virtually no upside in Watson.”
Okay,
I was wrong on this one. Watson is so much more dynamic than I ever envisioned
him being when I watched him in college, making multiple plays each game that
elevate the mostly mediocre talent around him. The Texans are alive in the playoff
hunt because of Watson, where I expected him to be a mere game manager, someone
who could ride a talented team to a successful but ultimately fruitless season.
There’s
a section of annoying college football fans who seem convinced that it was
obvious that Watson would turn into a star as he has. After all, he was a star
in college, a national championship winner and Heisman Trophy runner-up. But we
only have to look at the track record of national championship quarterbacks to
see that this doesn’t always transfer smoothly to the league. Just in the past
ten years we’ve seen titles won by Greg McElroy, AJ McCarron, Cardale Jones,
and Jake Coker. Watson was a step above all those players in college, but he
was still a passer who turned the ball over at a disturbingly high rate and
succeeded thanks to the stacked team around him, and looking back it isn’t hard
to see his career going a similar route to Winston’s.
2018
10. Josh Rosen
Nailed
it – “if you can generate pressure on him he will likely be unable to complete
the play down the field.”
Swing
and a Miss – “He might be the best pure thrower of the football to enter the
league since I started scouting players five years ago.”
I
still don’t believe the book is written on Rosen yet, but I will admit that the
first couple chapters are looking pretty rough. Two teams, two terrible
situations, and two equally awful performances by Rosen. He hasn’t been helped
by his situation, but he hasn’t done anything to indicate he could look better
in cleaner circumstances, and I think the days of him walking into a team with
a presumed starting role are over.
We’ll
never know what Rosen could have been if he hadn’t ended up on two teams
committed to building the worst offenses imaginable. He was always a player who
was better at taking advantage of a good situation than elevating a bad one,
and more than any of these other players he couldn’t afford to end up in a
place like Arizona or Miami. At the same time, he’s been worse than even I
could have expected in the places he ended up, and I’m not particularly
optimistic about what will happen wherever he ends up next.
32. Lamar Jackson
Nailed
it – “The moment he steps on a field he will become the best rushing
quarterback in the league, and there’s a reasonable argument to be made that he
will be the most dynamic ball carrier at any position period.”
Swing
and a Miss – “even if he can fix 90 percent of his flaws he will still top out
well below the best NFL passers.”
I
talked about the perfect situation with Mahomes above, and here we are again.
Somehow, against all odds, Lamar Jackson ended up on a team that lets him be
Lamar Jackson. The Ravens run an offense that is different than any other in
the NFL, because they have a quarterback that is different than any other in the
NFL.
Jackson
has succeeded as a passer more than I expected this year, but so much of that
is built around the threat of his legs. The Ravens throw to wide receivers less
than any other team in the league, and they use their running game to set up quick,
easy completions to their tight ends over the middle of the field. If Jackson
had to drop back in a normal NFL passing game, I’m not sure he would be anywhere
near as successful.
But
he doesn’t, because what he brings with his legs separates him from every other
quarterback who has ever stepped onto a football field. He’s not even Michael
Vick or Randall Cunningham, he’s a step above either of them. Like Mahomes, he
is a player who is succeeding in a way we have never seen before. And I’m glad
that this time around I was willing to take a risk and grade him as a top ten
selection.
7. Josh Allen
Nailed
it – “A couple times each game he will pull off a play that very few
quarterbacks at any level would even consider.”
Swing
and a Miss – “I know what the numbers say, but when I watch Allen on the field
I don’t see an inaccurate passer.”
It’s
still probably far too early to really reevaluate the 2018 class, and no
quarterback better represents that than Allen. A year and a half into his
career, we still have very little idea of what he is going to be. Which isn’t
surprising, since he was always a multi-year project.
Last
season Allen was bad, but not as bad as many expected. This year he has
improved, but not by enough for us to really say the Bills have found their
answer at quarterback. He’s about where Trubisky was a year ago, which
obviously doesn’t bode well for him. But considering how many people were
willing to write him off entirely before he was even drafted, I’m feeling
cautiously optimistic about how highly I had him rated.
3. Sam Darnold
Nailed
it – “Darnold can make any throw you ask of him, which is why it’s so
frustrating that he so often doesn’t.”
Swing
and a Miss – “Darnold is at his best when things get messy.”
Allen
is a puzzle because he’s been kind of middling for a season and a half. Darnold
is a puzzle because he has bounced wildly between both ends of the spectrum.
The ability is absolutely there, but the mental part of the game still seems
very far away. It hasn’t helped that he’s been put in charge of a terribly
mismanaged franchise, one that constantly demands he do way, way too much.
Still, his recklessness when he does try to do too much is more than I expected
entering the draft.
1. Baker Mayfield
Nailed
it – “Even though I don’t think he will make many plays as a rusher in the NFL
he is creative enough to wreak havoc behind the line of scrimmage.”
Swing
and a Miss – “Of the top quarterbacks in the draft, Mayfield will have the
toughest transition from college to the NFL.”
The
biggest concerns I had about Mayfield were all related to the system he played
in at Oklahoma. I saw him performing efficiently but unspectacularly in a
scheme that made his life as easy as possible, engineering open receivers with
a regularity I didn’t expect him to find in the NFL. I didn’t see him making
the plays an NFL quarterback needs to make, or so I thought.
The
truth is, after decades existing in very different worlds, the best schemes in both
college and the NFL have come together. When Mayfield has had success in
Cleveland—as sporadic as it has been—it’s come by doing the exact same things
he did in college. It worked then, and it can work now too. And with offenses
like Baltimore and Kansas City demonstrating a willingness to adapt to suit the
strengths of their passers, we may be reaching the point where we have to
retire the notion of judging a college quarterback by his system.